WARNING: Spoilers Ahead! This narrative reveals key plot points from the final episode of CBS’s “Matlock,” which is currently available to stream on Paramount+.
Season 1 of CBS’ “Matlock” concludes with a unique twist, differentiating it from the original 1986-95 Andy Griffith legal drama. Instead of a straightforward reboot, the character Matty Matlock, played by Kathy Bates, joins law firm Jacobson Moore, offering homespun Southern advice while demonstrating impressive legal acumen and winning over her peers. A surprising revelation towards the end of the pilot is that Matty’s real name is Madeline Kingston. Contrary to initial impressions, she wasn’t forced to return to work due to her husband’s gambling debts before his death; instead, she was a prosperous lawyer on a personal quest to uncover who at the esteemed firm concealed crucial opioid documents from Wellbrexa that could have prevented overdoses, including the death of her daughter, Ellie. Unlike portrayed earlier, Matty isn’t a widow; her supportive husband Edwin (Sam Anderson) stands by her side, along with their tech-savvy grandson Alfie (Aaron D. Harris).
Throughout Season 1, Matty maintained a low profile while delving into investigations, only to discover she had formed strong connections with several of her colleagues, such as the formidable attorney Olympia Lawrence (Skye P. Marshall). Initially suspected, Olympia was eventually exonerated by Matty. However, an unexpected twist in the climactic two-hour episode “Tricks of the Trade” revealed that it was Olympia’s former spouse, fellow lawyer Julian Markston (Jason Ritter), who had concealed evidence. This revelation was made by Olympia herself, who had previously learned Matty’s true identity wasn’t Matlock and had been deceiving her, as well as everyone else since joining Jacobson Moore. The fact that Matty and Olympia had grown to be the best of friends during this period added a painful dimension to this betrayal for Olympia.
Beyond discovering that Julian was responsible for the stolen Wellbrexa file (an issue we’ll delve into further in season 2), the finale held several unexpected twists. Therefore, I sat down with executive producer Jennie Snyder Urman to discuss these surprises and how they will influence the direction of season 2.
Instead of waiting for Matty’s identity to blow up in the finale, Olympia confronted her at the end of episode 216. Was it always this timing to let the cat out of the bag a few episodes before the finale?
Initially, our intention was to initiate the significant event early on in the storyline, allowing us to observe its consequences and advance the narrative for Season 2. Our goal was to introduce a challenge into the romantic journey of these two characters that we’ve been following. Originally, this pivotal moment was slated for Episode 13 when we initially conceived the season’s plot. However, as we progressed through the episodes, it became clear that such an event would drastically alter their relationship. We wanted to provide more time for these characters to deepen their love and spend quality time together before this turning point occurred. This included scenes of them socializing, perhaps over a few drinks in a bar.
Since the balloon had deflated after one instance, we found ourselves needing to re-inflate it multiple times. Pushing beyond our initial expectations, we eventually felt it was the opportune moment for this action. With 18 episodes already completed, I still had more story to tell. I proposed the idea of a two-part episode to the studio, explaining that this structure would be cost-effective while allowing the finale to develop fully and provide each beloved character with their well-deserved moments. The studio agreed.
How much of Season 2 is planned out so you knew when to amp up the Season 1 finale with things like Billy’s ex-girlfriend Claudia (Bella Ortiz) telling him that she’s pregnant near the end of the episode?
Before diving into brainstorming sessions with writers, it’s crucial to first envision the key moments and pivotal points in the storyline. This includes deciding when certain revelations will occur, establishing the central theme or “spine” of the narrative, determining where the story begins and ends, and planning for the ultimate resolution. After giving your brain a break, you should then begin outlining these significant events in great detail, as this process is rather meticulous.
Ultimately, I present my idea to both the production studio and the broadcasting network. This process usually takes around an hour, and it involves a thorough examination of each episode, following it closely. You handle the complex plot development during the construction phase itself, and then, as expected, you revisit every episode to identify the overall arc, mini-arcs, and all the dynamics. For about two weeks at the start of the season, we map out the entire season’s narrative.
Watching the finale, it really felt like the biggest story was about the Matty and Olympia relationship with every other story falling in behind it. Was that the plan?
From the outset, I’ve made it clear: this tale revolves around Olympia and Matty, a poignant love story. Yet, it transcends typical romantic narratives; it’s primarily about their enduring friendship. Friendships are precious and life-affirming, and we aim to emphasize that aspect in our production.

As Matty takes down her opioid case board, Fleetwood Mac’s “Silver Springs” plays over it. How did you come to this song?
It’s fantastic that you brought up that topic, as Kyla, our episode editor, suggested adding a “music cue” or “needle drop.” While Kyla is fond of these musical additions, they aren’t something we incorporate frequently in our show. Initially, we weren’t convinced about using any, but then she presented one more option for us to consider. The song she played was “Silver Springs,” and it was a perfect fit! Kyla, indeed, had great intuition.
Olympia also has to go to the bank and lie in order to get access to the account she once shared with Julian, but she first gets pointers from Matty on being deceptive. Are they more cut from the same cloth than either of them thought?
In the opening scene of this episode, I found myself seething with anger, betrayal, and pain, as Olympia did. Matty, in an attempt to explain, said, “Two facts can coexist: I deceived you, yet I loved you.” This resonated deeply with me, as it was undeniably true. However, in her heart, Olympia considered Matty as good as gone. Yet, throughout the episode, Matty shared some of his crafty skills with her, and I felt like I was walking in his shoes. This experience made Matty hopeful that Olympia might understand the challenging nature of loving someone so much that you may find yourself manipulating them, if the situation calls for it.
Matty advises Olympia to strike where it’ll hurt her most, and Olympia follows this advice with Julian, as well as with Matty herself. When Olympia asks to go to the bank by herself, saying, “Let me go alone. Consider your daughter. If our friendship meant anything to you, you will let me go,” this is exactly what Matty wants to hear. However, there’s a question about whether Olympia is genuinely honest or if she’s turning Matty’s own tactics against her. At the moment, Matty isn’t sure. There’s a possibility of reconciliation for their friendship, but it could also be that Olympia is manipulating her. Is Matty deserving of this?
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The gym murder case in the episode is very much separate from everything else going on with Olympia and Matty’s story. Was that the intention?
Absolutely, we aimed for each character to shine in a significant way. For Sarah Leah Lewis’ character, she’s longed for her own case. In Episode 10, it was clear that Sarah was set to be assigned to the case; however, Matty was on the verge of being exposed, so he switched to Billy instead. This decision has made Matty somewhat insecure and slightly resentful towards Sarah. As a result, some unintended fallout has affected Sarah. Giving her this major case is not only a significant moment for the character but also something she’s been eagerly anticipating throughout the season. Matty wants Sarah to succeed because he acknowledges that he denied her another chance at success earlier on.
We also find out Julian is actually guilty at the very end, and that he was acting on behalf Senior (Beau Bridges), his father, in taking the missing Wellbrexa documents years ago. Was it always the plan that it would come back around to Julian?
Indeed, we pondered over this matter within our team of writers. Initially, we considered whether it should be Senior or Julian. However, what intrigued us most was the prospect of revealing Olympia’s identity at a critical juncture only to discover it wasn’t her. We anticipated that Matty would feel relieved, and then Olympia would expose the truth. Initially, we thought it might be Senior, but we found ourselves questioning which character reveal would create the most tension, conflict, emotional turmoil, and moral dilemmas – elements essential for compelling television.

Plus, we like Julian, even when he tries to get Olympia to come on his side in this deception — which is also heartbreaking.
Through Jason’s powerful portrayal, it was clear to us that Julian had committed a massive blunder. His remorse was palpable, which is why he held onto the documents. It serves as his guilty conscience, and he’s striving to improve. I empathized with him deeply due to Jason’s skill in making Julian, a character with numerous flaws such as infidelity towards Olympia, seem relatable. Despite his many shortcomings, we find ourselves rooting for him. Julian is a character who aspires to be better, but when faced with immense pressure, he tends to take the simpler path.
How long have you been wanting to bring in Alfie’s potential father? Did you always know that would be in the finale?
In our initial conversation during the pilot, Kathy and I discussed Alfie’s father and when he would make an appearance. In the final episode, I mentioned this, and she replied, “Alright, as I have a perfect actor for him.” The individual we eventually chose is Niko Nicotero. Kathy and he had previously collaborated on “Richard Jewell,” and she had some captivating scenes with him. She praised him highly, saying, “He’s fantastic, multi-dimensional, deep, and intriguing.” Well said, Kathy Bates.
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That character is also a way to keep the pain of Ellie’s addiction and death in the picture, since it’s easy to assume he was possibly a part of that.
Questioning whether it’s him or not, the father remains uncertain. Yet, he might bring back memories of Ellie that they hadn’t known before, and moments of happiness too. I’d like to delve into the happiness she embodied as well. However, this could disrupt the entire home environment, which serves as Matty’s sanctuary.
Speaking of home, how much will Matty and Edwin be bumping heads next season, since he’s been hoping they can go live a good retired life, but she isn’t ready to give up her legal career? How much of that will be a conflict for Season 2?
In the heart of Season 2, around Episode 4, things started to unfold in a delightful way. Characters reached a deal or an unspoken truce – I won’t delve into the details, but it was thrilling! This pact and the newfound understanding sparked fresh waves of humor and drama. I can barely contain my excitement for their storyline. Alas, I must tread carefully to avoid ruining the surprises, but remember, solving one problem often leads to a cascade of new challenges, so the journey won’t feel repetitive.
Now that Olympia knows who Matty really is and all her lies, where does the show go from here? The show is called “Matlock,” which is also this fake persona that has now blown up. Can you even answer that?
I can assure you, there’s no need for concern. Everything’s functioning as intended. For the upcoming season, we have our strategy mapped out, and fear not, Matlock and her charming persona will still be with us. The character is crucial, and the narrative progression over the second season allows us to achieve what we aim for. It’s an exciting prospect! I’m genuinely looking forward to it.
This interview has been edited and condensed.
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