Ben Mendelsohn Loved Reprising His ‘Rogue One’ Villain on ‘Andor’: ‘It’s Taken Me By Joyous Surprise’

A Cautionary Note: Let me share some insights about the latest episode (Season 2, Episode 6) of “Andor” currently gracing our screens on Disney+.

In this tale, we delve deeper into the life of Cassian Andor, witnessing pivotal events that shape his character and the rebellion’s course. The writing is sharp, the performances are compelling, and the tension is palpable. If you’re a fan of the Star Wars universe or just enjoy well-crafted narrative arcs, I highly recommend giving this episode a watch.

Ben Mendelsohn is bursting with energy as we chat via Zoom about reprising his role as Orson Krennic, the antagonist from the 2016 “Star Wars” film “Rogue One,” for the second season of Lucasfilm’s prequel series “Andor.” His excitement for the project is palpable, and he can’t seem to stay in one place; he paces around his London residence during our conversation. Despite not having watched Season 1 of the show before being approached by “Andor” creator and “Rogue One” screenwriter Tony Gilroy about reprising Krennic, Mendelsohn’s enthusiasm remained undiminished.

According to Mendelsohn, Tony had asked, “Are you open to returning for just filming a couple of scenes?” To this, Mendelsohn responded enthusiastically, saying, “Absolutely yes!”

Or more colloquially:

Mendelsohn remembers that Tony inquired about coming back for some quick scenes. And he (Mendelsohn) said, “You bet!”

Or simply:

Tony suggested returning for a few brief scenes, which Mendelsohn agreed to.

In the current season of “Andor”, Krennic’s appearances were scarce but impactful. In Episode 1, he covertly convened with Imperial officials to scheme the acquisition of the planet Ghorman for a precious mineral that the Emperor required. (Although Krennic claimed it was necessary for developing a sustainable energy source, we learned from “Rogue One” that his true mission involves overseeing the construction of the Empire’s most secretive ultimate weapon, the Death Star.) Krennic didn’t resurface until Episode 6, where he crossed paths with Senator Mon Mothma (Genevieve O’Reilly) and the enigmatic leader of the Rebellion, Luthen Rael (Stellan Skarsgård), at a private antiquities gallery during an extravagant party. Krennic took pleasure in needling Mothma about rebellions as everyone around him chuckled politely, oblivious to the fact that Luthen’s assistant, Kleya (Elizabeth Dulau), was discreetly dismantling a listening device within the same room.

In the two episodes, Krennic effortlessly wields power and charisma, a stark difference from “Rogue One” where he’s continually thwarted by Grand Moff Tarkin and Darth Vader, eventually meeting his end in a Death Star blast. Mendelsohn shares this insight during our chat, expressing his enjoyment of delving deeper into the character and discussing how working on “Andor” has enhanced his admiration for “Rogue One”, his thoughts on the numerous real-life historical parallels in the series, and if there’s any chance he’ll reprise the role.

When were you first approached about reprising Krennic for “Andor”?

A while back, not too long following the debut season, Tony posed the question, “Would you be open to reprising your role for just a few scenes?” To which I eagerly responded, “You bet!” “Michael Clayton” is among my top 25 favorite films ever. Additionally, playing Krennic and my overall “Star Wars” experience was quite enjoyable for me. However, I had no inkling of how fantastic it would turn out to be. It’s left me pleasantly surprised.

This sounds like it was before you’d seen Season 1?

Yeah, yeah.

So what was your reaction to the show, knowing you were going to be a part of Season 2?

Wow, “Andor” is truly a masterfully crafted exploration of its universe. It’s fascinating to see how these creative minds breathe new life into genres like horror or science fiction, adding layers of depth and complexity. The Gilroy family excels at delivering high-concept material in a way that is both engaging and enjoyable.

What did you know about Season 2 going in?

Tony presented the idea, along with its historical comparisons, and so on. It was a situation where understanding became clearer only gradually. Then, after a hearty chuckle, he attempted to fit it into the storyline as effectively as possible.

Wait, what was that laugh about?

Indeed, it seems to me that one key point is that you’re not consciously taking into account all the other moving parts. Granted, I can see why people might think this way, but you’re just contributing your part to the bigger picture, like a piece in a jigsaw puzzle.

How would you compare what we see of Krennic in Season 2 of “Andor” versus what we see of him in “Rogue One”?

In “Rogue One,” we encounter him at the zenith of his success, yet it’s also a time when other Imperial commanders are thinking, “That seems impressive. I’m starting to wonder if that might be my area now.” This sparks more life in him, and of course, the clandestine fact is that Galen Erso designed the Death Star. However, I can’t shake off the notion that I constructed the Death Star. It’s such a powerful phrase, I couldn’t resist using it.

In the series “Andor”, you’re witnessing a more prosperous or carefree phase for the character. He’s dominating, and his actions are more vibrant during this time.

Sorry, he’s “fruitier”?

Absolutely! There’s a noticeable change in his demeanor, almost like he’s more confidently moving around and seems to be enjoying the experience more. He appears to be thoroughly engaged with whatever he’s doing, viewing it as a mathematical puzzle of sorts. The character is quite terrifying in a way that we didn’t see in “Rogue One.” This series, I believe, explores a darker, more mature, and more fully-realized version of this world than we’ve ever seen before.

Krennic’s meeting in Episode 1 with Imperial officers, including propaganda officials, has been compared to the Nazi’s planning the Final Solution at the Wannsee Conference. How much were you looking at those kinds of historical parallels for your performance?

As a movie enthusiast and someone who’s no stranger to the era of World War II, I must admit that I didn’t delve deep into specific research for this topic. However, it’s hard not to notice the recurring theme of manipulating enemies in some way or another, a pattern that seems to echo throughout history. While I can’t pinpoint one particular instance due to the nuances and complexities of the story, I believe that discerning viewers will recognize this pattern as something that has been repeated endlessly across time.

How did it feel for you to explore a different dimension of Krennic? In “Rogue One,” he’s rarely the most important person in the room, and he’s almost always on the back foot — whereas on “Andor,” it’s quite the opposite.

The experience was incredibly fulfilling. It turned out to be exactly what I had asked for, though I suspect it might have gone the same way regardless. To put it simply, it was enjoyable to show my expertise in that field. In other words, it was an entertaining endeavor overall.

In Episode 6, we see Krennic in a social situation with civilians like Mon Mothma and Luthen Rael. What was that like to film?

It seemed to take a while for us to get comfortable together on screen since Genevieve and I hadn’t shared much screentime prior, but our characters had a long history. Stellan’s character and I didn’t have much interaction beyond brief encounters, like ships passing in the night. However, it was fun exploring the tension between us, and of course, hinting at what might be happening off-screen.

It seems like you shot a lot more of Krennic’s conversation while the scene shifts to Kleya trying to remove the listening device?

Indeed, it’s accurate to say that we understood during filming that many aspects were happening peripherally, and the dialogue was more about provoking her due to her obstinacy and her seemingly foolish, anti-Imperial demeanor, emphasizing its ineffectiveness and corruption. At this point in Krennic’s character, he is very conscious of his power play and how she has been weakened. This particular scene seemed to stretch on for a while, as often happens when there are numerous actors speaking from multiple angles.

Did you rewatch “Rogue One” to prepare?

Oh dear, it’s not me specifically that I’m delving into various scenarios with, but rather the scenes and situations themselves that are leading the exploration. There’s nothing unique about my approach other than perhaps a certain indefinable quality, an air or disposition if you will.

I’m asking because I’m wondering if making “Andor” has reframed Krennic or any part of “Rogue One” for you?

I believe “Rogue One” carried a significant weight, and it was already quite heavy. However, “Andor” elevates that weight exponentially. In fact, when I first saw the original movie in the theater as an eight-year-old, the sound of a starship flying overhead took me by surprise and left a lasting impression on me. I was immediately hooked. When discussing “Rogue One,” it was essential for us to pay tribute to its personal impact and significance. So, with “Andor,” I feel confident that we’ve really hit the mark.

This piece is impressively complex, yet remarkably clear to understand, much like exceptional writing does. It’s designed for everyone from front-row theatergoers to those in the back, catering to both children and adults. I can’t fathom how they manage it. With nearly four decades in the Australian film and television industry, I recognize a strong performer when I see one. And here I am, riding along on this horse. It’s not me; it’s more like marveling at an incredible animal.

Is there anything more you’d like to learn or clarify? I might be hesitant in some topics, but let me know if there are any specific areas you’d like me to delve deeper into. Can we revisit any points that need further explanation?

You may be the first person who’s ever asked me that. I am curious about one more thing: Tony Gilroy’s been clear that this show was always going to head straight into “Rogue One.” And we all know what happens to Krennic in that movie.

Indeed, it seems that’s our assumption. [Laughs heartily.] By all means, continue your conversation. I’m merely attempting to engage Bob Iger – just passing along a friendly greeting towards him.

That’s actually was I was trying to get at. Watching “Andor,” it does seem like there could be more to explore with this character if he wasn’t seemingly obliterated by the Death Star.

One truly enjoyable aspect is watching people categorize him within the villainy pecking order. Previously, I jokingly referred to him as a mid-level bureaucrat in an empire, which might not be the most alluring background for a villain. However, Tony has added so much depth to his character that the intricate workings of this empire – the power struggles and such – have become incredibly captivating. In essence, with advancements in AI technology, who knows? As James Bond famously said, “Never say never again.

This interview has been edited and condensed.

2025-05-01 00:47