Sherri Shepherd Is the People’s Bestie

I’ve been following Sherri Shepherd‘s career for a while, and it’s amazing to see how far she’s come. She really paid her dues, starting out doing stand-up with legends like Jamie Foxx and Chris Tucker, and then grinding for almost twenty years – doing everything from legal work to little TV appearances. Her big break came with a recurring role on *30 Rock*, which was fantastic, and then she jumped right into the deep end with *The View*. That show was tough for her, honestly. She got a lot of criticism for not knowing enough about politics and for her religious beliefs, especially when it came to evolution. But what I always loved about Sherri was her honesty. She was so open about her life – her husband’s infidelity, her past abortions, her struggles with weight – and that really connected with people. She’s just incredibly candid and funny, and that’s a winning combination.

After Wendy Williams left the show in 2021 due to health problems, Sherri Shepherd took over in 2022. Now called *Sherri*, the show is starting its fourth season and is the most-watched syndicated talk show among Black women aged 25-54.

Relaxing in the brightly decorated greenroom backstage at her show, the 58-year-old is thoughtful and optimistic. She admits, “I sometimes still feel like the same Sherri who used to take the train and do her own laundry.” It took her years to feel accepted as part of the Hollywood scene.

I realized I might be funny while working as a legal secretary and riding the bus after my car was repossessed. We’d pass the Comedy Store on the way to work, so a group of us went one night. Andrew Dice Clay was performing – doing his controversial ‘Hickory dickory dock’ routine. He was upsetting some people, and one woman turned to me and said, ‘You could get up there and be funnier than him.’ That’s when I first thought about trying comedy myself.

After the office staff left for the day, I spoke to Eddie Griffin and Andrew while they were having a smoke break. Dice encouraged me to go onstage even if I was nervous, while Eddie’s response wasn’t as supportive. Luckily, the legal secretaries chipped in and paid for me to take comedy classes.

While I was in jail, the other women often told each other to ‘leave Sherri alone’ because they believed I would achieve something important with my life.

I was arrested because of a lot of unpaid traffic tickets – around $10,000 worth. My car registration was also way out of date, and there were warrants for my arrest because I hadn’t appeared in court for those tickets.

I always figured this day would come. For two years, I lived with the constant worry of it happening, and I’d had cars taken from me before. Each time I had to stop, I’d immediately hide the keys under the seat to prevent it from being towed. But when the officer said they had to arrest me, I panicked. They handcuffed me at the Van Nuys jail and locked me up. I ended up near a group of sex workers, which was incredibly strange. I just thought, I have no idea how to handle this! Luckily, my ability to make people laugh helped me get through it.

Man, I’ll never forget my first time on stage! I was a wreck, seriously. I’d taken comedy classes for six weeks, learning how to write jokes and all that, but I was the only one from my class actually *doing* stand-up. So I was incredibly nervous, especially since I had just left the Jehovah’s Witness faith. But then I got my first laugh, and it hit me – they actually *liked* me! It was such a relief and a crazy feeling.

I really needed that outlet because my life was falling apart. My mom was seriously ill with diabetes and didn’t have much time left, my sister was struggling with addiction, and my boyfriend was completely unstable and had just been incarcerated. Everything felt chaotic, but this – performing – was something I *could* control, and it was incredibly empowering. I mostly talked about my family, doing my best Valley Girl impression. I even had a joke that my friend ended up using – I’d say, “I have a boyfriend, and he didn’t get me anything for Valentine’s Day. I asked where my flowers were, and he said, ‘Oh baby, I was going to get you roses, but the light turned green!’” – a reference to the flower vendors on the freeways in L.A. The joke always got a great reaction. Looking back, it feels pretty simple now, but at the time, it was a lifeline.

After that, I tried performing at an open mic night at a Black club, but it didn’t go well at all. I spent the whole night at the Comedy Act Theater, where Joe Torry was the host. He was really tough on everyone. Growing up in the Valley, I was used to starting my sets by asking how everyone was doing, but the audience quickly shut me down, telling me I wasn’t funny and to get off stage. Someone even made a crude comment about my breasts.

I began performing at Black comedy clubs, and D.L. Hughley pointed out that my speaking style didn’t sound authentically Black. I really had to work on adopting a more natural Black rhythm and tone in my delivery.

You noticed I changed how I spoke depending on the audience? That’s exactly what I did – I’d switch to speaking more like my authentic self when performing for Black audiences. Growing up in a mostly white area, I learned that white audiences would give you a little leeway, about six seconds, before judging you. But with Black audiences, you had to be funny right away. That’s what I figured out. Even when my sets didn’t go well, I couldn’t stop performing. It was the only place I could really talk about what was happening in my life, things I couldn’t discuss in everyday conversations. After a show, I’d often drive hours to San Bernardino to help my mom, who was dealing with a lot of pain. Stand-up has always been my escape, and it still is, even though not many people know I still do it.

Many female stand-up comedians, including Ali Wong, have talked about the stark difference in how male and female comics are treated, specifically mentioning the way famous male comedians often have casual sexual encounters with fans, dismissively referred to as “chuckle fuckers.” The life of a female comic on the road was difficult. I personally disliked touring because of unwanted sexual advances from fellow comedians, and I always warn other women to avoid those situations, as it can severely damage their professional reputation. It was also challenging dealing with promoters who wouldn’t pay female comics what they were owed.

I used to hang around Sheryl Underwood, and she could be really tough. She was serious about protecting her belongings – she even carried her purse onstage because she’d had things stolen. Once, when we were on tour, she threatened a promoter with a gun if he didn’t pay her immediately. I pointed out we’d traveled a long way for this, and she quickly told me to be quiet. She’s changed a lot since finding her faith, though, and is much calmer now.

When I was touring as a comedian, I often felt unsafe and vulnerable, especially alone in hotel rooms. I had to take extra precautions like avoiding ground floor rooms and barricading my door because my performances sometimes attracted unwanted attention. It was frustrating seeing male comedians leave after casual encounters while I was left stranded. Sometimes, even the bartender offering me a ride home would make inappropriate advances, which I found upsetting. This led me to focus more on acting, which ultimately became more successful for me than stand-up comedy.

You performed with a lot of now-famous Black comedians like Jamie Foxx and Chris Tucker before they became stars. What was it like seeing them at the beginning of their careers? I knew Chris Tucker when he was just starting out – he had bad acne, like a lot of up-and-coming comics. I always said a comedian really makes it when their skin clears up! Back then, comedians were starting to get TV shows, but Chris was determined to be in movies. People teased him about it, saying, ‘You, with that complexion?’ But then he landed *Rush Hour*, and everyone was amazed. After that, *Def Jam* really helped launch his career.

I auditioned for *In Living Color* twice with Jamie, but unfortunately, I didn’t get in. I also didn’t make the cut for Def Jam Comedy – I just wasn’t experienced enough and probably wouldn’t have handled a New York crowd very well.

But it was a fun time for everybody and we would just talk and laugh and, along the way, dream.

I’ll never forget when Katt Williams first hit the L.A. comedy scene. It’s funny, people were almost *mad* at how funny he was, and they really gave him a hard time! He was hustling, doing sets at churches just to get a meal. It was wild because he could kill it at a casino one night, hang with a tough crowd the next, and then seamlessly perform for a church group. For a long time, he bounced around, crashing with female comics because he didn’t have a place of his own. Seeing some of those women now, some have faded away, but others are still out there working hard – and honestly, when I see them, I just think, ‘Wow, you really made it.’

Yes, it’s true I took acting classes with Jeff Goldblum! It was at Playhouse West in North Hollywood. Blake Lively’s father, Eric Lively, was in the class too. Learning the Meisner technique from Jeff Goldblum was… distracting, to say the least. He was incredibly handsome, so it was hard to concentrate!

Jeff definitely loved being the center of attention. But he wasn’t like that as a teacher – not even close. He was demanding but also genuinely cared about his students.

Back in the 1990s, I appeared in several popular sitcoms like ‘Everybody Loves Raymond,’ ‘Suddenly Susan,’ and ‘The Jamie Foxx Show.’ At the time, people often referred to me as ‘the Black girl’ in those mostly white casts. It’s great to see more diversity now, because back then I was often the only Black actress on those shows. I always try to be bold and take chances during auditions and on set, and it worked! For example, when I auditioned for ‘The Jamie Foxx Show,’ I played a very flirtatious character named Sheila. I playfully pursued Jamie Foxx’s character, even sniffing his neck and touching his leg, which he found hilarious. Making Jamie laugh meant you’d get called back. I was originally only supposed to be in one episode, but I ended up becoming a recurring character and Fancy’s best friend on the show.

You’re also well-known for playing Rhonda, the museum tour guide on *Friends*. People often remember her line, ‘Hey, it’s Rhonda from P.S. 129! I gave you my snack pack!’ While they don’t ask me to recreate that role anymore, I often get requests on Cameo to perform lines from my character Angie on *30 Rock*, or Rhonda from *Friends*, which earns me a little extra money.

The set of *Friends* had a reputation for being a close-knit group that didn’t welcome outsiders. Was that true? Definitely. I was working on *Suddenly Susan* at the time, and my agents really pushed for me during *Friends’* casting process because they were specifically looking for a white actress. I remember playfully emphasizing my bust, and they found it hilarious. Honestly, that’s why I put off getting a breast reduction for so long – these large breasts actually helped me land some sitcom roles!

Jennifer Aniston was incredibly kind and immediately came over to greet me. She mentioned she and Brooke Shields were close friends, and Brooke had let her know I’d be there. The rest of the cast weren’t unfriendly, but it felt like an established group – they weren’t really going to open up and share personal things with someone new at the table. They were polite, but quickly went back to their own conversations. I experienced something similar on the set of *Living Single* soon after, but that entire cast really appreciated my work – Lisa Kudrow even encouraged me to return.

I often felt isolated as a Black actress. I’ll never forget when a security guard encouraged me with a simple “Go on, girl” – it meant the world to me. At the time, aspiring actors sent postcards to agents hoping to get auditions. I sent mine with a picture of myself in color, and wrote on the back, “Friends finally got some color.” Looking back, my mistake was sending it directly to the creators of *Friends*, because I was hoping for a recurring role. I regret that postcard, because they never even called me in for an audition.

Marta Kauffman, one of the creators of *Friends*, recently participated in a discussion where she expressed regret and even cried, saying she hadn’t fully understood the impact of the show at the time. I found her explanation a bit questionable.

I was told that after my brief appearance on Friends, I ended up working as a legal secretary for David Schwimmer’s father. It was a really disheartening experience, reminding me that I hadn’t achieved success yet. I’d just finished filming an episode of Friends the month before, and then I found myself in Century City, working at his dad’s office. He didn’t quite place me, but he had a group photo of the Friends cast on his wall. Meanwhile, I was still crashing on my girlfriend’s couch in a rough neighborhood and relying on public transportation.

He’d sometimes introduce me to other lawyers, casually mentioning I’d been on his son’s show. It was then I realized I had a decision to make: go back to being a legal secretary, or fully commit to pursuing my own opportunities. I believe in going all in – there’s no backup plan, you either succeed or you don’t. I decided to take the risk, and things started to happen.

A few years later, you landed the part of Tracy Morgan’s wife on 30 Rock. How did that come about? Tina Fey offered me the role directly, without an audition. I initially declined because the character didn’t have any lines. They then developed the part further and asked me to reconsider, which I accepted. They flew me in from Los Angeles, and both Tina and Alec Baldwin were incredibly supportive throughout the process.

I was incredibly uncomfortable when they came to get me – I’d just eaten ten White Castle cheeseburgers and was feeling really bloated and self-conscious. The first scene was supposed to be a honeymoon scene with me in lingerie, so I called the costume department, and they were very accommodating. Meeting Tracy Morgan for the first time was terrifying. He immediately said, “I like you. I’m going to get you pregnant,” and I honestly thought that was just part of the script! He was very playful, flirty, and a bit strange. We both lived in the Trump building, and he had a shark tank in his apartment – a gift from the actor who played Grizz – that he wasn’t supposed to have. One day, a lightbulb in the tank exploded, water flooded everywhere, and it felt like a volcano had erupted in my apartment. I grabbed my wigs, then some clothes, and finally my son, Jeffrey – in that order – and we got out.

Shortly after landing the role on 30 Rock in 2007, you were asked to join The View following Star Jones’s departure. What made you decide to take the job? Apparently, they had approached you about replacing Star Jones even before she left the show. You’d been trying to get on The View for years, but the show’s creator, Bill Geddie, wasn’t sure if you could hold a conversation for five minutes because he wasn’t familiar with your work.

Johnnie Cochran passed away, and Star asked me to accompany her to his funeral the next day. I was supposed to be on bed rest, as I’d recently lost one of my twin babies-a little girl-and my doctor advised against traveling. Despite that, I went anyway, and I experienced bleeding throughout the trip. I ended up needing to go to the hospital after the funeral service. I often feel guilty about that trip, wondering if I might have carried Jeffrey, my surviving twin, for a longer period if I’d just stayed home and rested.

That appearance was a turning point in my career. Joy Behar really liked me and invited me back on the show. At the time, I had just discovered my husband was being unfaithful, and I ended up sharing that with the audience. People said I was too open and talked too much! I seemed to fit everything they were looking for – a Black, single mother who was funny and didn’t hold back about her personal life.

Bill offered me a permanent position, explaining that Star was leaving the show. I turned it down, telling him it was too complicated. Then Barbara Walters called and asked me to join, which I also declined – it was the second or third time she’d asked. She simply said ‘Goodbye’ after that. I didn’t hear from them for about nine months, and Bill eventually had to speak with Barbara because she tends to hold grudges.

Honestly, after I joined the show, the money they offered was really low – I could have earned more on a comedy series! And around that same time, I was also dealing with raising a child with special needs. Then the tabloids started saying I was hard to work with, which was just awful. Rosie O’Donnell actually called me and was amazing. She told me exactly what everyone else was making – she herself got $2 million, Joy and Elisabeth each made $500,000. She said I *needed* to ask for $2 million, and they’d only offered me $400,000! I eventually negotiated up to a million, and I’ll always be grateful to Rosie for giving me that information and helping me stand up for myself.

Joining *The View* during a particularly challenging time – with frequent on-air tension and constant media leaks – was a uniquely intense experience. It was a steep learning curve, especially since I’d grown up as a Jehovah’s Witness and hadn’t even voted before joining the show. My upbringing taught me to avoid arguments and questioning authority, but suddenly I was debating issues daily with personalities like Whoopi Goldberg and Barbara Walters. I’d never really had to defend my beliefs before; my faith emphasized accepting what leaders and scripture dictated as absolute truth.

I’m familiar with the usual talking points – honestly, I sometimes lost focus. I knew basic facts, like the Earth being round, but I was incredibly nervous during the show. I didn’t fully grasp how influential *The View* was until I heard Bill O’Reilly insulted me, and Barbara Walters told me to educate myself. I often defended Sarah Palin, partly because of her child’s special needs. Initially, I received positive feedback from Black women, but then Barbara Walters claimed they disliked me, which really upset me. Everyone would criticize me except Elisabeth, and I always struggled to get a chance to speak. It was difficult to even get a word in. I’m not much of a political debater, but I did learn to be brief and try to make people laugh.

I really cut my teeth on that show. Whoopi was hard on me at first, and I honestly thought she disliked me, but I realize now it was because she cared and didn’t want me to make the same mistakes she did. Barbara was equally tough, and I struggled for three years, often upset by her constant challenges. Looking back, I see she was actually trying to push me to be better. You had to learn to stand up to Barbara, or she’d walk all over you – that’s the only way she showed respect. On my last day, she surprised me by telling me she loved me and that I had learned more than anyone else.

Do you still keep in touch with your former co-hosts from The View? Elisabeth was a bridesmaid at your wedding, right? Yes, she and I are still close. It’s funny, Joy Behar actually got married on the same day as me! We still spend time together, like when I stay with her in the Hamptons, although she has a habit of turning all the lights off, which isn’t very lively. Whoopi didn’t come to my wedding, and I think that was because she wasn’t a fan of my husband back then.

Elisabeth and I have always been close, but things have been strained recently because I need to be sure where people stand politically, and it’s hard for me when I disagree with them. Because of this, we aren’t as connected as we used to be. We’ve always had a strong bond, though – she was a great support, like when Bill Maher criticized me, she was fiercely protective and wanted to defend me. It’s a sisterly connection – you maintain those relationships because we all understand how challenging this life is, especially those who worked with Barbara.

Following your time on *The View*, you created your own show, *Sherri*, which aired on Lifetime in 2009. Can you describe what it was like building a series inspired by your personal experiences?

The show’s script was essentially my stand-up routine, word for word. I started talking about my husband’s infidelity onstage as a way to process it. Jamie Foxx was in the audience one night and, after hearing my story, encouraged me to continue sharing it. I then met with some television producers, shared everything that had happened, and they immediately saw the potential for a show. Interestingly, my ex-husband and I are now on good terms – his children are even at my house with my husband, Jeffrey, right now.

Niecy Nash actually auditioned to play my friend on TV, but she didn’t get the part – she was really upset about it, joking that she’d never had to *try out* to be herself before! They initially cast someone who resembled my husband, but he was fired the very same day – that’s when I realized how important looking a certain way is in the TV industry. Then they hired Malcolm-Jamal Warner, who was known from *Malcolm and Eddie*. He used to say that our on-screen relationship changed how people saw him, and he hadn’t been considered a leading man before that.

Everyone is sharing wonderful memories of Malcolm-Jamal Warner after his recent passing. When asked about working with him, one colleague described being heartbroken by the news, calling him a genuinely kind and bright person. She emphasized that despite his success on ‘The Cosby Show,’ he remained incredibly humble and supportive. He was focused on pursuing his passion for directing, and had even included opportunities to do so in his contracts. He consistently offered encouragement, often sending messages of pride and support.

Sherri, now that you have your own talk show, do you think your time on *The View* helped prepare you for this? Honestly, I was totally ready when they asked me. After leaving *The View*, I immediately started trying to get my own show, but no one was interested. Then I got *Dish Nation*, which taught me how to run a show on my own, even during COVID, working with the team in Atlanta. I was also doing game shows and stand-up, so when I first filled in for Wendy Williams, I felt prepared. It was great to see everyone who filled in for Wendy that first time – Nick Cannon, Keke Palmer, Jerry O’Connell – get their own deals. I was really disappointed because I actually *had* an offer that was pulled. I kept trying to get my demo reel seen, but I was turned down. Then I got another chance to fill in, I did really well, and they offered me a deal right away.

I was incredibly nervous the day before the show started and worried about standing out. Jennifer Hudson was also beginning her show that day, and Tamron Hall was already on the air. But I had a clear vision for what I wanted my talk show to be, and we managed to create it in just 30 days – much faster than the usual year-long development process.

Before you started hosting, did you ever watch The Wendy Williams Show? It’s definitely changed a lot in tone since Wendy Williams hosted. I absolutely did watch! Wendy felt like someone you could just hang out with, and she seemed to feel the same way about her audience. She was the only talk show host who really said what everyone else was thinking – sometimes that was good for viewers, even if it caused trouble in her personal life. When the news about Diddy came out, I honestly wished Wendy was still there.

I did watch it, but it was uncomfortable whenever she started talking about me. It wasn’t enjoyable at all, honestly. She had a strange nickname for my ex-husband – she called him “the Wildebeest.” Once, while I was having breakfast with my assistant, she told me I didn’t look good enough to be on TV. I just thought to myself, ‘That was a really rude thing to say.’

Both you and Wendy faced a lot of public scrutiny regarding your marriages, and I really sympathized with her. Not everyone is genuinely happy for you, and some people actively try to tear you down. I understand how it feels to publicly express affection for your husband, and how embarrassing that can be. That’s why, if I’m in a relationship again, I plan to keep it private – I’ve learned my lesson. I won’t be removing photos or having old statements brought up again.

It was tough dealing with all the attention surrounding my new role, especially since Wendy’s show ended so suddenly. It’s disheartening when people quickly change their opinions. I remember Joy from *The View* warning me that sharing my opinions would inevitably alienate half the audience, and that proved to be true. People are often inconsistent – I went from receiving enthusiastic support during auditions to facing criticism from the same individuals. I believe I was given this opportunity later in life so that negativity wouldn’t affect me as much. I felt I needed to demonstrate that I wasn’t trying to replace Wendy, and going into the fourth season, I feel I’ve succeeded. I still occasionally receive harsh comments comparing me to Wendy, but I’ve also attracted guests who were hesitant to appear on other shows, and many actively requested to be on mine.

Wendy Williams has been getting a lot of attention lately, and while the details of her health issues aren’t fully clear, I haven’t had a chance to speak with her. People often assume everyone in the entertainment industry is close, but we weren’t friends. I was just a guest on her show, and I don’t even have her contact information. Like everyone else, I’m sending my best wishes and hoping she feels better soon – nobody wants to see anyone struggle.

I understand the concern about potentially offending people in the industry, but I need to consider my career. I’m still an actress and want to continue working, so I can’t always ask difficult questions. I value my relationships within the entertainment community. It’s easy for outsiders to criticize, but they don’t understand the pressures involved. Ultimately, people come on the show to have a good time, and that’s what matters. I also find personal fulfillment in my work and faith. I want viewers to feel safe and enjoy themselves when they tune in.

It’s hard to pick just one favorite guest, but it’s definitely not Niecy Nash – she’s been on the show a lot! I really enjoyed having John Lithgow on. Lenny Kravitz was great because he was up for jamming with me, and I’m a big fan of Method Man. Katt Williams is someone who rarely does interviews, so it was special to have him. Ultimately, my favorite guests are the ones I can just relax and have a good time with.

I was so incredibly nervous meeting Vice President Kamala Harris that I couldn’t even manage a smile. She actually called me and left a voicemail saying, “Hi Sherri, this is Vice President Kamala, and I’m watching you right now – you’re hilarious!” I immediately shared the message with everyone I knew.

I’ve always been a huge Oprah fan, and I remember when I really took a chance and reached out to her. I’d been told ‘no’ by others, so I sent her all the data about my audience – specifically Black women – and explained why reaching them was so important. I wasn’t trying to put anyone else down, but my show really connected with everyday people. A week later, she actually called me! It was honestly one of the best moments of my life when she said she was ‘passing the baton.’ It meant so much, especially because I grew up watching her and even appeared on her show in my 20s, talking about a relationship problem!

I understand you strive to create a positive atmosphere, but during your show, you mentioned a disagreement with a celebrity at the premiere of the new play *Othello*. You said she confronted you about feeling unfairly criticized on your own show. Though you didn’t reveal her name at the time, the media eventually identified her as Nia Long. I’m curious about what you think when these kinds of incidents become public news. My main thought is that I want to avoid similar situations in the future. I’ve worked incredibly hard to build my career, and I don’t want to get caught up in drama – that’s why I initially kept the celebrity anonymous. However, I’m a comedian, and my life experiences, including everything that happens to me, become material for my performances.

It bothered me when people started picking sides – Team Sherri versus Team Nia – because it felt unnecessarily divisive, and I didn’t want to get involved. Seeing it online, I thought the whole thing could have been resolved quickly. That’s why I was so frustrated – I genuinely supported her. I specifically talked about her breakup with Ime Udoka to show her we were on her side and that she deserved better treatment, not to gossip. So, when someone accused me of constantly criticizing her, it really surprised me. That never happened, and I think they were confusing me with whoever held this position before me. I’ve learned a lesson from this: if you mention an unnamed celebrity, people will definitely try to figure out who you’re talking about!

People reacted strongly to some things I said on the show, like my comments about Megan Thee Stallion and Zoë Kravitz’s outfits at the Vanity Fair Oscars party. I anticipated the criticism regarding Megan, and I made sure to say I’m a fan first. Honestly, I was probably listening to “WAP” too much – Jeffrey knows all the words just like I do! But I’ve been thinking a lot about my impact and the message I want to send, especially to young women. I work with a lot of girls who are new to the industry, and I admire how Megan inspires them to pursue education. I just felt she didn’t *need* to dress in a revealing way to be powerful, and I wanted to say something about that.

You decided to interview Jonathan Majors after his conviction for misdemeanor assault and harassment. Can you explain your reasoning?

I’ve always admired Jonathan Majors as an actor. I don’t have a background in journalism, so I didn’t want to approach the interview with a lot of tough questions. I simply wanted to give him a platform to share his perspective. I believe in giving people grace and second chances. I also wanted to support Meagan Good, knowing she faced criticism for being with him, and show a different side of Jonathan to the public. I’d be interested in interviewing Chris Brown as well, but I anticipate a strong negative reaction – something I was prepared for with the Jonathan Majors interview.

Do you feel appreciated for your work? What would truly make you feel that appreciation? I don’t really think in terms of ‘getting what I deserve’ – I’m grateful to do what I love. What’s really rewarding is that people still remember me, and I’m thankful to still be recognized and not just seen as someone from the past.

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